The War on Drugs Guess the Company Again

I'm deep in the center of a sell-out show on Brighton seafront when Adam Granduciel takes the stage. It's hot and the assembled crowd juggle drinks and jostle elbows for space. In two days time Granduciel and his bandmates volition play the Pyramid Stage for a performance that isn't simply their Glastonbury debut, but a career milestone that caps off a troubled just productive catamenia. Granduciel has been on something of a journeying, from wrenching anxiety and paralysing self analysis to the release of what many will consider the album of the year.

The last time The War on Drugs played in Brighton, Granduciel could take died, from the seismic electrical shots coming from his microphone. While the testify was stopped to fix the fault, the ring went to their light-green room, picked up their passenger, returned to the stage and shared it out among the oversupply. "Looking back, it was a actually adept time".

This night's atmosphere is surprisingly joyous, considering most of the songs from the project's 3rd album, 'Lost In A Dream', encompass depression, fear, anxiety, loss and self-doubt.

The adjacent fourth dimension I run into Graduciel is the following afternoon, when nosotros see in the breezy confines of a beachfront café. The added danger hither comes from flying volleyballs from a series of sandy courts adjacent to our tabular array. In person Granduciel is an eloquent, friendly and insouciant effigy, taller and younger than he looks on phase, with a mop of dark curly hair, a well-worn T-shirt and a clear speaking vocalization that belies the gruff, contemplative tones of his recordings.

It's fairly fast that talk turns to last night's performance and Granduciel's enjoyment of the alive experience. Present, The War On Drugs are a taught deed, simply this wasn't always the example. "Back in 2007, me, Kurt (Vile), Dave (Hartley) and some other drummer would go to New York and play, just we wouldn't even practice," he says. "People would show upwardly at our gigs and write most how unprofessional and awful we were just… I mean, they were right, we were shitty. We didn't know how to play half of our songs, we were out of time and while there might have been a few moments of magic, for the well-nigh part information technology was a train wreck to sentinel. Merely terminal week we played an outdoor show in New York to four and a half thousand people and it was first-class. It made me experience like nosotros've come and then far, which is great for all the people who've stuck with the states from the commencement."

"I hateful alive, even if we are simply blasting through songs and it sounds similar shit to me it still sounds good, considering I have a great sound guy and I'm surrounded by great players.

"I had an awful Primavera feel, for example. Everything nigh it was super fucked up. I couldn't hear myself, I was pissed off and I played the whole ready thinking I'd embarrassed myself. So I watched a video of the gig and we were fucking incredible." He pauses for a moment. "Y'know, this band is like a rare article at present… nosotros're a existent rock and roll band and I think people appreciate that"

"I guess I'm just constantly selling myself curt or recall that everything is fleeting, simply I'm just starting to recognise – like in the final two months – that this is something that won't exist fleeting thing in my life. I ever assume that if we have a bad show then anybody volition just write us off. But looking at it now, I feel similar we've worked difficult over the years to build a fanbase of people that love the music and the alive shows, and that's bang-up because they're the people who'll stay with you for a long time."

Granduciel'due south disbelief in his own achievements is an endearing trait in the face of the nearly universal acclaim that 'Lost In A Dream' has generated. "I couldn't rely on an income from music until perchance two years ago, so I guess it still feels like kind of a surprise," he says. "Before then I had a bunch of jobs, simply my favourite was in a rug shop, where they manufactured, imported and sold rugs. I worked in wholesale and I think I was pretty skillful at it, I was just this kid who chained smoked and saturday on the phone all day; it was me and these two women who'd worked there for fifteen years and were always bickering."

Granduciel talks highly of his by employer and his commitment, not only to the sale of rugs, but to the high quality of the product. It'southward clear that it'southward the kind of integrity to the creative process – be it making a rug or making an album – that he admires. "Oh no, I'm never going dorsum," he laughs when I ask if he liked the job enough to render to it one day.

Born Adam Granofsky, Granduciel grew up in Dover, a small town 40 minutes southwest of Boston; a place where by his own reckoning there was "literally null going on." The middle child of iii, he found his own way into music rather than through his parents or siblings. "My dad is xx years older than my mom," he says, "so he was into classical music, and big ring Jazz. Frank Sinatra was probably also renegade for him and free jazz was merely hippy shit.

"My mom was a kid of the '60s, and so she listened to Roy Orbison and George Harrison. I remember when I was a teenager I uncovered her record drove at my grandmother's firm and was like, 'Ooooh shit, this is where all the good stuff is!' And for a while, I felt weird, cause I would always run across other musicians who'd had this musical inheritance ingrained in them from their family unit and I'd call up, perhaps in that location was something wrong with me, maybe I'g non supposed to do this because it doesn't come naturally or information technology's non in my blood or something. Just I've learned that information technology doesn't have to be that way." He pauses for a beat. "I mean, maybe my Mom and dad had it too, merely they just never tapped into it, correct?"

Granduciel didn't get straight into music after leaving dwelling house and instead took the path to college, he says, at asking of his begetter – a man who was large on didactics. He studied art history and art, with a dear for painting merely without the patience for it. "I wanted to pace straight into the role of the tortured creative person," he says, "but y'know, you can't simply start weird, you lot take to have technique and form earlier you tin can become weird. It's similar music too – there's still a lot of techniques I could get better at but I don't heed the journey, unlike painting where I lacked the discipline. It all worked out, because what I was studying has influenced the way I work now, and I try to arroyo music the mode some of my favourite Modernist painters did, by throwing a bunch of pigment on a canvas to get a really big wash of colour, and so scraping away at it until they had something that worked."

After graduating, Granduciel went to California and started to actively pursue a career in music in between waiting tables. A restless couple of years followed, before he was set up to move on over again, this fourth dimension to Philadelphia, the place that – a decade on – he still calls home. And while this move wasn't prompted by pedagogy or hazard (it was for a girl), it saw him fall in with Philly'southward burgeoning music scene. "I hadn't grown up in a place where music was a career option. I mean, aside from listening to music and going to shows, no-ane I knew was doing it. Even kids at high school who were super serious about music concluded upwards going to higher and getting real jobs; information technology was never something they would pursue for a living. But in Philly I'd go to local pubs like The Kyber and come across my friend's band playing and they'd sold out the hundred chapters venue, which I idea was the coolest affair ever. I would call back, these guys are going to be huge, and of course they weren't, simply on a Friday night, in that bar, in that town, everyone idea they were fucking awesome. And later on I'd meet them effectually boondocks and exist sort of intimidated past these guys in these tiny rock bands, considering there's wasn't a earth I'd come from".

It may non have been a place that felt natural to Granduciel but, afterwards a run a risk coming together with Kurt Vile, the pair began what was to become a long time collaborative friendship, and the genesis of The State of war On Drugs. The pair formed the group's first incarnation in 2005, when they self-released a debut EP.

'Lost In A Dream' is a stunning anthology by any normal standards; swirling guitars and densely packed layers of synth jammed into 10 of the near cinematic, straight-up guitar songs you'll hear all twelvemonth. It feels similar the next evolution for The War On Drugs; if 'Wagonwheel Blues' – written in collaboration with Vile – set their humble beginnings, and 'Slave Ambience' – Granduciel's start album working alone – applied its focus on crafting dense soundscapes, then this is the starting time LP in his catalogue to feel similar it has a genuine authorial postage. Information technology'southward something Granduciel intended.

"At the time, 'Slave Ambient' was the virtually experimental record I could conceive, just because how it was done and the amount of time it took, but you tin can only exercise something that way in one case. So for 'Lost In A Dream' I wanted to step out as a writer instead of simply a front man of an indie rock band and make a tape that might change and evolve over time. I wanted to meet if I could write songs that could stand alone and didn't need to exist locked into sounds and samples.

"It'south all about the mood in these songs; that's what I tend to chase. That's not to say I want to keep them small and lo-fi or anything, I just want to capture the feeling I was in at that moment. And it'due south those sounds that excite me – something mysterious, nighttime and a trivial chip melancholy but can also be crafted into a larger work, which sounds like a full band.

"After the second tape, I knew in my middle I was a musician and how seriously I took the process of creating those songs," he says, "but I wanted to have the writing side a lilliputian more seriously too and actually think nigh what I was saying, or what I wasn't proverb. All my favourite artists are vocaliser-songwriters, with, for better or worse, an on-going story. I don't know what my story is yet necessarily, but I guess I just wanted to write songs that I could look back on and feel proud.

"I read recently that some people remember that in one case artists discover their muse – that beginning matter that forced them to create, whether it'south a feeling, an emotion or a relationship – that's what they always become dorsum to and I am all the same going back to that moment when I was in California and feeling directionless about my life. I still feel like I am trying to capture whatever I was feeling dorsum then."

Much has been made of merely how personal 'Lost In A Dream' feels, which is in no small office due to Granduciel's openness about the issues he experienced with anxiety and depression during the recording of the album. There's a darkness to the tape that belies its upbeat tone and carries the listener on a journey from dark to light; from the chaos of instability to repose in the unknown. It's such a stiff through line on the album, you have to wonder, with everything that'south been written, if this sequencing wasn't thoroughly intentional?

"I approximate the first half is a little… errr… not dark, just it's certainly most tension and then as the album progresses it becomes about opening yourself upwardly to the world, or opening yourself upwardly to any might happen in life. I could tell in that location was a story in my song cycles, but I guess information technology was unconscious because I was so close to the music.

"Looking back, information technology's funny considering I'd had already given names to the songs 'Under the Pressure level' and 'Suffering' long earlier I was feeling stressed. It'south not like I wrote those songs specifically about what I was going through. I didn't write 'Suffering' because I was in the middle of a panic attack, but when I was listening back six months afterwards I was similar, 'Oh, shit, I've been working on this song and only now I'm in this fucked up state.'"

Granduciel's menses of affliction was spurred on by a confluence of events, as he institute himself in the center of a break-up from his long term girlfriend, afloat from his community – years spent on the road (not only with The War On Drugs, merely as part of Vile's backing band The Violators) left him feeling isolated from his friends in Philadelphia. And it began to touch everything virtually the way he once worked.

"I just wasn't losing myself anymore," he says. "I had a studio in my house but I wasn't staying up at night getting high and fucking around on my record automobile because I was too scared to smoke weed in instance I had a complete nervous breakdown. I was resigned to not leaving my bedroom and simply listening to a handful of demo's I'd finished earlier I went into this mental collapse and I started having physical manifestations of this panic and anxiety."

Perhaps unsurprisingly for someone as determined as Granduciel, this period didn't totally prohibit him from working, although it's articulate the single-minded way in which he wanted to get things done fanned the flames of his wellness.

He explains: "I was still actively writing, I but didn't want to exist at home and I didn't want to have a fucking agglomeration of half baked ideas recorded on tape. I think that my anxiety fed into wanting to piece of work on the album all the time in a existent studio and brand it sound awesome. I wanted to come up with ideas, practise at domicile, go into the studio six weeks later, have six songs to work on and know what I wanted to exercise on those songs. I thought if I could be super focused on the music, and so I wouldn't be focused on the sensation in my neck that I was convinced was cancer. In my house, working on music when information technology's only me, I had too many fucking distractions and those distractions were fucking me up.

"I found the wait in between sessions awful. I originally thought we were going to cake out 4 months so we could work on the record, just because of scheduling for Jeff (Ziegler – Granduciel's long-time engineer) nosotros simply couldn't. All we'd have was four days and no more time for 2 months. I just felt upset that I could only piece of work on the affair I wanted to devote all the time to in little blocks of four days or half dozen days. I hateful, I dearest Jeff – he's my closest musical confidant, closer than anyone in the ring. I trust him to make decisions that make the music sound awesome; he'south the only guy I would ever allow have any influence over my vision. I hope to piece of work with him for a really long time, and I'd similar to call back he knows that. Merely at the fourth dimension I felt like, 'I'm your biggest fucking client correct at present and y'all're fucking me!'

"Of course, none of this is unique to me, a lot of people deal with it, only information technology's a crazy way to live life. I hateful, it'southward not gone away, I yet become weird moments, but now it doesn't ship me into a cave like it would take a year ago. I'1000 merely trying to call back more rationally and less emotionally. You take to just get to that point where you experience that twinge in your neck and yous ignore it, because it might be a brain tumour just it might exist nothing, and you tin can't exercise anything about it either way."

With such a turbulent and elongated period of recording and realising the album in its finished construction, one of Granduciel's biggest worries was momentum, and much similar the restless movement in his youth, he found himself losing focus on what excited him while he got too comfortable in i place. "There was a signal in the summer when Jeff and I had been working on the album for over a year, but I was worried all the life has been sucked out of it. "I hateful, information technology'south my music and I tin can't expect anybody else to be interested in the never ending possibilities of a song. I realised that if I wanted stay enthusiastic, I would accept to get somewhere else to cease it, so I went to the Rare Book Room in New York and that was where the songs took their final shape.

"So much good came out of those sessions," he says. "I mean, 'In Reverse' was basically written in mixing through a serial of cute coincidences, while I hated the version we mixed of 'An Bounding main In Between The Waves' so much I re-recorded it from scratch over a two and a half twenty-four hours catamenia. It had gotten away from me and I knew exactly what I wanted it to be and so I went back to the original demo and started once again. I think everyone idea I was crazy, simply I'm happy I did it because it'south an entirely different version of the song. I judge I've just learned to trust my instincts a piddling more now and to take advantage of whatever enthusiasm you accept, because you might not have that forever."

Information technology's an interesting thought and 1 which I press Granduciel on – was at that place always a fourth dimension when he thought the album might not go completed? Was there a moment when it seemed insurmountable because all the mental effort he was devoting to information technology?

"I never really felt like I wouldn't finish it, no, but I wanted to make sure that I finished it the way I wanted too and that was by being excited about each song right up to the very end of the procedure."

When I mention the record's clear success a wry grin breaks across Granduciel'southward face. "Oh man, yeah… okay and so I'm grinning because I get embarrassed" he laughs. "I guess I'm coping with that by forcing myself to call up what made it so special, remember the opportunities that that has opened up for the band now and to not necessarily take those things for granted. And to even so respect why people are connecting with it. I have to remember that people dig 'Crimson Middle', for example, not because information technology sounds like Springsteen, simply because I spent a year and a half working on the arrangement before I recorded a note of that song. I suppose what I hateful is, while I am thankful for the acclaim and I love that I tin can do this for a living, I can't forget that none of this comes naturally to me. I'thou not the guy who sits in the dorsum of a tour bus, writes a vocal, plays it for my friends and information technology's astonishing. This takes some time and a lot of effort"

"Some people are raised with a lot of cocky conviction but for some reason I have this fear… similar crazy fear, and maybe it is equally blackness and white as I don't want to neglect. Only I just desire to exist as awesome every bit I can be and I think that will always exist there. I mean information technology would be squeamish if I could merely brand a record, call back this is what it is and I promise you similar it, simply I still take to go through that process where I capitalise on equally many moments of inspiration as I can and that will hopefully interpret onto my music."

Granduciel and I wander back to the tour autobus exterior the venue and catch a few moments of tune-yArDs soundchecking for her show this night. We say our goodbyes and he heads off to explore the town. The following twenty-four hours he's on my tv, on Glastonbury's Pyramid Stage. 'Red Eyes' has reached its chorus and, in ane of those fortuitous moments that but happens at Glastonbury, the sun broaches the clouds and lights up the site. It'south a moment that both the crowd and the Granduciel seem to find surprising, and every bit the oversupply cheer and the band come alive I'm reminded that we're all just scratching away at the surface.

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